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I have a lot of old 8mm film from when I was in France (60-63) and also our wedding pictures from 1963 and I want to put them on a DVD (for our granchildren and great grandchildren) by running them on a 8mm projector and filming them and then downloading them to my computer.
I bought a used Mansfield , Holiday 8mm - M-1000 projector and the problem I have is that when I run the film after about two to three minutes it starts shutering and I can not get it to stop.
In my area this was the only 8mm projector I could find and I am afraid of buying one on e-bay.
My film is old and I have had to use the tape repar strips on them.
I have had the projector apart trying to find out why it shuters and I think that one of the posts is not turning when the film is on, they both turn perfect when no film is on the posts.
That is my problem, can anybody help me.
Thank you very much.
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Hi, Don and welcome to the forum.

What model Mansfield do you have? Does it have a variable speed control? A Variable speed option will help adjust the speed in order to cut down on a strobe light effect buy matching the shutter speed of the projector with the camcorder speed. By "shuttering" do you mean the projected image is not steady on the screen. It could be that the fiilm needs to lubricated or do you noticed the projector is not running smooth when the shuttering starts?

I am sure the members here can lead you to a good projector that fit your needs for a small price.

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Dan Lail - Thank you for your reply.
It is a Mansfield Holiday Model M-1000.
It does not have a speed adjustment.
By shuttering I mean the film does not hold steady, it goes back and forth.
I never heard of lubricated a film, yes it would be stiff being 50 years old, it
has been in a box in our closet protected how would you do that?
Yes the projector is not letting one of the posts not turning freely, I don't understand why.
I would buy a new projector if it works, I was just afraid of e-bay.
Before I bought the one that I have now I tried it and it worked perfect,
but I only ran a little of the film thru.
I don't mind paying a fair price for a good projector.

Thank you very much for your help.

It sounds like the projector is the problem. Can you get to the gears inside the projector? Buy a tube of white litium grease from the hardware store. It shouldn't cost more than $5 or $6 dollars. Squeeze a little lithium grease on the gears and while you're in there, put a drop or two of machine oil on the any armatures or shafts where gears or pulleys rotate on.

Is this what your Mansfield looks like?

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Dan Lail - Thank you for your reply.
The picture you showed is what mine looks like.
I had put some wd-40 on the top and bottom posts where the film fits on to.
I will get some of the grease the talked about, but I wonder if vasleline
would perform the same function.

If you wanted I could take some pictures of the inside of the projector
and e-mail them as an attachment to you.

What I read about this projector was that it was a very cheap one, but it was the only one
that I could find. I had bought a projector in France (1961) but had a burned out bulb
a long time ago and I could not find another one so it was thrown out.

Thank you for your help.

I agree with Dan, as far the projector being the problem. Remove the "back" --the side not shown in Dan's photo-- and observe the machine in forward running--(of course becareful as there is electricity running stuff). If you see any spindles not moving, apply the lithium grease--SPARINGLY. At this point do NOT lubricate anything on the side shown in the photo. Also, since I'd bet the projector hasn't been used in decades, that there is a bit of grime in the film path, the route the film takes as the projector advances it. I would give the machine a thorough cleaning with q-tips and cleaning liquid: I use naptha (Ronsonal lighter fluid) or, at least a 90% isopropal alcohol. Both are available at a drug store. After cleaning and lubricating, if a part is still not moving, and you suspect it shoud be, let us know. It could be a belt problem. This stuff should not take a heck of a lot of time, but I suspect, as Dan recommended, you are going to need a variable speed projector to handle the video "flicker". Good luck--I applaud your efforts to do this correctly

Hi Don-- Our posts crossed instantaneously--if you applied wd-40 to the spindles the film runs on--on the side shown in Dan's photo--I would advise cleaning it off with alcohol. Your films are precious and wd-40 will not help matters

Chris Smith - Thank you for your reply.
The piece where the lens is at is on a hinge and it flips out to the right (with it facing to the front)
and the film path is just going down the flat piece of metal with the lens pushed in front of it.
It is very simple.

If you wanted I could take some pictures of the inside of the projector
and e-mail them as an attachment to you.

I am a retired accountant and statistician and I am not very good with mechancial things,
I can set up a Excel system to do almost anything you want but I have a lot of trouble
with other things.
I just wonder if I would be better off getting one that works perfect.

Thank you for your help.

Don, send me a pic attachment of the inside. I'll post the pic on this thread and we can lead you through a lube job on the old Mansfield. it's pretty straight forward. I think you can do it.

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I've had dealings with Mansfields in the past. They are just not good projectors in any light. WD 40 stands for Water Displacement formula 40. It is not meant to be lube in any venue. For a Mansfield projector, I would rather send you a better projector then make you work on that one for free.